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  JW Pioneer - Andrew Spicer - suicide in Shrewsbury - UK???

  by Jim Dee in

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  there is a lot of cover up going on in the uk at the moment.

  letters from the society etc to shrewbury conga and some of the kent congs.. one andrew spicer, pioneer who married early april 2005 in a kent congregation moved to shrewsbury area with his new wife to pioneer.

  by 22 may 2005 he was dead.

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  I beleive he visited a few congs in the Telford area before settling on the Shrewsbury area, but thats all I know about his Midlands connections

  The society are afraid that when the matter comes to the coroners court, the papers will get hold of it and Jehovahs name will be blackened, hence the active cover-up disguised as "Caring and not gossiping, giving a good witness etc etc"

  The real issue here is protection of the corporate image and protection of funds. Should reporters at the coroners court become aware that this person was a pioneer and active witness then all publicity (aka Mr Paul Gilles in London Bethel will have something to do again) will break loose.

  What of the families? They are broken people, shamed and rejected when they need love and care from Gods "loving" organisation - all the protect the society.

  Where is the society when their members need protection? - Nowhere

  Jim
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  JW Pioneer - Andrew Spicer - suicide in Shrewsbury - UK???

  by Jim Dee in

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  there is a lot of cover up going on in the uk at the moment.

  letters from the society etc to shrewbury conga and some of the kent congs.. one andrew spicer, pioneer who married early april 2005 in a kent congregation moved to shrewsbury area with his new wife to pioneer.

  by 22 may 2005 he was dead.

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  There is a lot of cover up going on in the UK at the moment. Letters from the society etc to Shrewbury conga and some of the Kent congs.

  One Andrew Spicer, Pioneer who married early April 2005 in a Kent Congregation moved to Shrewsbury area with his new wife to Pioneer. By 22 May 2005 he was dead. No coroners court has been yet held (Can take up to 6 months, however the society have issued instruction amongst the Kent congs as well as the Shrewsbury congs to keep the suicide under wraps, (no gossipping, keep the name of the truth clean etc etc). I spoke to the local registrars office and they have knowledge of the incident

  The alledged suicide apparently was on the railway tracks.

  Why did this happen? who knows. The society have given little comfort, the local congregation hate his name and everyone is trying to cover this tragedy up. Blacked the victim name and keep the congregations name clean

  Watch this space - or does anyone have any more knowledge of this

  Jim
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  A big problem for JW's in the UK?

  by Jim Dee in

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  from the sky news web site - 23.06.05giving the cold shoulderdoorstep salesmen who cold-call are to be targeted with the launch of a new scheme banning them from certain areas.

  residents who feel harassed by their tactics will work with police to create no-entry zones for them under a plan by the trading standards institute.. .

  the no-go zones could cover anything from a street to an entire estate and will also help combat so-called "distraction burglaries", which have been linked to cold-calling.. persistent doorstep sellers would then be reported to the authorities for follow-up action.. ron gainsford, chief executive of the institute, said: "people are sick and tired of uninvited doorstep callers.

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  From the Sky News Web Site - 23.06.05

  GIVING THE COLD SHOULDER

  Doorstep salesmen who cold-call are to be targeted with the launch of a new scheme banning them from certain areas.

  Residents who feel harassed by their tactics will work with police to create no-entry zones for them under a plan by the Trading Standards Institute.

  The no-go zones could cover anything from a street to an entire estate and will also help combat so-called "distraction burglaries", which have been linked to cold-calling.

  Persistent doorstep sellers would then be reported to the authorities for follow-up action.

  Ron Gainsford, Chief Executive of the institute, said: "People are sick and tired of uninvited doorstep callers.

  "We are particularly concerned about those who use it as a front for criminal activity.

  "We hope the Government will act soon to introduce stronger laws - but in the meantime communities can do something for themselves, with our help."

  The watchdog has mounted a campaign calling for in new laws tackling uninvited salesmen who turn up at properties offering maintenance, gardening and repair services.

  Similar schemes piloted in some parts of Cambridgeshire over the past two years saw distraction burglaries drop by 11% in that period.

  An institute survey carried out in 2003 showed that 96% of the 9,000 people questioned did not want doorstep sellers turning up uninvited.

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  Interesting what!!!

  Jim
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  The book Crisis of Conscience

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  i've just finished reading this book

  i was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a snr circuit elder in england because of the abuse issue and the society covering up.

  i have also the seen the society flee and cya because of the data protection act in the uk.

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  I've just finished reading this book I was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a Snr Circuit Elder in England because of the abuse issue and the society covering up. I have also the seen the society flee and CYA because of the Data Protection Act in the UK. Seen them twist and turn on leagalise rather than righteousness. I hated the society for the way they turned their blindness into "blame the abused" - but part of me said "they have many things right". But this book has opened my eyes. What a fool I have been. Even though Franz is a bitter, bitter man, nevertheless it has been like the scales falling from my eyes. What a fool I have been. I am intelligent, degree educated and run a large multi national corporation - yet I was thoroughly deceived. When I resigned as an Elder because of the way they reacted over child abuse in my congregation - just covered it up on offical policy - I still believed. I helped change may policies and leaked inside information - deep inside information - to both this board and others. Yet deep inside I thought they would change. What an idiot I am. How could I have been so foolish? How could I have fallen for such a lie? Jim
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  The book Crisis of Conscience

  by Jim Dee in

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  i've just finished reading this book

  i was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a snr circuit elder in england because of the abuse issue and the society covering up.

  i have also the seen the society flee and cya because of the data protection act in the uk.

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  I've just finished reading this book I was brought up in the society, seen the elder arrangement brought in, seen changes and in fighting - and finally sttof down as a Snr Circuit Elder in England because of the abuse issue and the society covering up. I have also the seen the society flee and CYA because of the Data Protection Act in the UK. Seen them twist and turn on leagalise rather than righteousness. I hated the society for the way they turned their blindness into "blame the abused" - but part of me said "they have many things right". But this book has opened my eyes. What a fool I have been even though Franz is a bitter, bitter man, nevertheless it has been like the scales falling from my eyes. What a fool I have been. I am intelligent, degree educated and run a large multi national corporation - yet I was thoroughly deceived. When I resigned as an Elder because of the way they reacted over child abuse in my congregation - just covered it up on offical policy - I still believed. I helped change may policies and leaked inside information - deep inside information - to both this board and others. Yet deep inside I thought they would change. What an idiot I am. How could I have been so foolish? How could I have fallen for such a lie? Jim
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  Note from Companies house re the breakdown of WTBS in the UK

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  note from companies house re the breakdown of wtbs in the uk

  watch tower house the ridgeway

  watch tower house the ridgeway

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  Note from Companies house re the breakdown of WTBS in the UK

  Current Appointments Report for:

  WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF BRITAIN

  03858051

  Created: 14/04/2005

  Company Register Information

  Company Number:	03858051	Incorporated on: 08/10/1999
  Company Name:	WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF BRITAIN
  Registered Office:	IBSA HOUSE
  	THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN
  Company Type:	PRI/LBG/NSC/S.30 (Private, limited by guarantee, no share capital, section 30 of the Companies Act)
  Country of Origin:	United Kingdom
  Status:	Active
  Nature Of Business (SIC(92)):	2213 - Publish journals & periodicals
  Mortgage: Number of Charges:	( 0 outstanding / 0 part satisfied / 0 satisfied)
  Previous Names
  No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
  Key Filing Dates
  Accounting Reference Date:	31/08
  Last Accounts Made Up To:	31/08/2003 (FULL)
  Next Accounts Due:	30/06/2005
  Last Return Made Up To:	08/10/2004
  Next Return Due:	05/11/2005
  Last Bulk Shareholders List:	Not available

  Current Appointments

  Number of current appointments: 5

  SECRETARY:	CRUSE, THOMAS PAUL
  Appointed:	08/10/1999	Date of Birth: 19/06/1954
  Nationality:	BRITISH
  No. of Company appointments:	3
  Address:	WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY
  	THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN

  DIRECTOR:	DOWSON, JACK
  Appointed:	08/10/1999	Date of Birth: 30/01/1934
  Nationality:	BRITISH
  No. of Company appointments:	2
  Address:	WATCH TOWER HOUSE THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN

  DIRECTOR:	DRAGE, RONALD
  Appointed:	08/10/1999	Date of Birth: 12/11/1928
  Nationality:	BRITISH
  No. of Company appointments:	2
  Address:	WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT SOCIETY
  	THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN

  DIRECTOR:	ELLIS, PETER
  Appointed:	08/10/1999	Date of Birth: 11/10/1922
  Nationality:	BRITISH
  No. of Company appointments:	2
  Address:	WATCH TOWER HOUSE THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN

  DIRECTOR:	VIGO, BEVAN JOHN
  Appointed:	08/10/1999	Date of Birth: 02/01/1938
  Nationality:	BRITISH
  No. of Company appointments:	1
  Address:	WATCHTOWER HOUSE
  	THE RIDGEWAY
  	LONDON
  	NW7 1RN

  This Report excludes resignations

  Recent Filing History

  Documents filed since 10/05/2003

  DATE	FORM	DESCRIPTION
  19/10/2004	363s	ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 08/10/04
  03/06/2004	AA	FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/08/03
  18/10/2003	363s	ANNUAL RETURN MADE UP TO 08/10/03
  10/05/2003	AA	FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/08/02
  This Report excludes 88(2) Share Allotment documents
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  Newcastle / Gateshead Area

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  anyone here from the newcastle/gateshead area?

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  Anyone here from the newcastle/gateshead area? Jim
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  Have you ever heard of a Disfellowshipping overturned

  by Jim Dee in

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  i was an elder for 14 years.. i sat through 23 disfellowshipping decisions and 6 appeals - and not one of them was approved.

  i checked with the guys i grew up with and they hadn't heard of an overuling either (and one of them is now a co).the i think about my 35 years under the cosh - and i cannot recall an overuling from that perspective either.. it would be worth knowing, has anyone hear ever heard of a disfellowshipping being overruled?

  or is this another case of animal farm coming true.

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  I was an Elder for 14 years.

  I sat through 23 Disfellowshipping decisions and 6 appeals - and not one of them was approved. I checked with the guys I grew up with and they hadn't heard of an overuling either (and one of them is now a CO).The I think about my 35 years under the cosh - and I cannot recall an overuling from that perspective either.

  It would be worth knowing, has anyone hear ever heard of a Disfellowshipping being overruled? Or is this another case of Animal Farm coming true

  Jim
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  There is NO annual service report in the Janaury 1st WT

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  well, i have confirmed rumors that have gone around about there being no annual service report for the january 1st, 2005 issue.. .

  it seems, for reasons unknown, that the watchtower has ended another decades long tradition.

  in the second study article for the january 1st, 2005 watchtower, entitled, "trained to give a thorough witness," paragraph 24 reads: .

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  Maybe Arthur Anderson are their auditor of official statistics? After all they want to get the figures correct with a view to Jehovahs spirit being upon the organisation

  Oh Yes, and don't forget they have to count pensioners and those in old folks home who like the company/ Study

  Oh Yes, and make sure you count the JW child molestors Not in prison

  Jim
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  "What is life if full of care - we have no time to stop and stare"

  by Jim Dee in

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  that prose was written many years ago by a great poet - william henry davies from wales.. 4 years ago i realised that the child molestation issue was totally out of order and the society was plain wrong, and helped in my own small way to help those who highlighted the problem - and in the following years i also realised that the poets words were right.. for 40 years its been - monday wt study prep, tuesday group, wed prep for tms, thursday tms and sm, friday personal strudy, sat field service, sunday wt and field service.

  there was no time to stop and stare!

  a treadmill with no happiness or ending - just acceleration.. now on a sat and sun i go away the wales, the lake district, the fenlands of norfolk or the museums in london.

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  That prose was written many years ago by a great poet - William Henry Davies from Wales.

  4 years ago I realised that the child molestation issue was totally out of order and the society was plain wrong, and helped in my own small way to help those who highlighted the problem - and in the following years I also realised that the Poets words were right.

  For 40 years its been - Monday WT Study prep, Tuesday Group, Wed prep for TMS, Thursday TMS and SM, Friday personal Strudy, Sat Field Service, Sunday WT and Field Service. There was no time to stop and stare! A treadmill with no happiness or ending - just acceleration.

  Now on a Sat and Sun I go away the Wales, the Lake District, the Fenlands of Norfolk or the Museums in London. I take life slower and under less pressure. The politics in the elders meetings are replaced by Paintings and Sculpture. I have a pint in the pub at lunch time opn a Sunday (disfellowship that heathen!!) I am learning to enjoy life for the first time, I am learning to listen - to my children and my life.

  I know this must seem silly to most here - but I believe those words written so long ago are really true - anyone else?

  Jim